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Okay so this was so much freaking fun to draw!<3Daniel Clara and Breanna :)
Wow. Didn’t realize how much I wanted this until this very second.
Superman spent his childhood baling hay on a farm, he’s a working class hero and people don’t like that. Whereas Batman is a billionaire who sleeps until three in the afternoon, puts on a rubber suit and beats the shit out of poor people. Now that’s a wish fulfillment fantasy.
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Grant Morrison during a panel at the Edinburgh Book Festival (via operationfailure) #i mean superman is wish fulfillment too but for two jewish guys wanting to help people they couldn’t as opposed to like #taking out the privilege of the rich thru violence against the poor #it depends on how you want to define wish fulfillment #but it is true: superman is a working class hero and batman is not (via anartinsorcery) (via twoxheartedxdream) forever reblog, especially with those tags (via whenyourenotsavingtheworld) Funny because I just argued about this only a few short days ago on Twitter with a guy who, otherwise, is intelligent and well spoken. Yet, this idea that Clark is an “othered” figure was totally lost on him. This is why it doesn’t just make me angry but actually makes me uncomfortable when dudebros get super excited about Batman beating the shit out of Superman. The last 3 live action adaptations of Superman—-all of which found huge audiences—-have particularly focused on this idea that Clark Kent grows up feeling othered. (In one of those adapations, Clark Kent was actually played by an actor who is bi-racial and was abandoned by his father at a young age btw.) In several of these adapations, Clark Kent learning to accept his body and accept his heritage balanced with his intense love and identification as a human is not only a right of passage but the driving force of his identity and self-discovery. The fact that a lot of this self-discovery also often includes a human female who accepts him fully and without fear or persecution for his “otherness” is vital and important. So when I see people talking about how “awesome” it would be for Batman to come into Superman’s movie and “beat the shit out of him”….I’m not just annoyed with you. I’m not just angry at you. You actually make me uncomfortable. Your thoughts about fictional icons and myths make me uncomfortable. (via therearecertainshadesoflimelight) I think it’s also very telling that a lot of these same guys who worship Bruce over Clark, absolutely hated when Dick Grayson (who is open, affectionate, paternal in a way that Bruce isn’t, often queer coded, relies on women, and is a (white-passing) man of color)) was Batman. They don’t love the idea of Batman himself, a normal man with extraordinary will, training, and resources, but the idea of Bruce Wayne as Batman—a white, super-masculine, super self-reliant, rich man. I mean, I love a lot of versions of Bruce too—when he has the right writers, he’s awesome. But yeah. (via reservoircat) Man, I have new feelings about Clark Kent now. (via cockchomp) I am so grateful for this. I am so sick of people being like BATMAN IS SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN SUPERMAN. No, he is not. I love both characters but a well written Clark is just as complex, layered, and interesting as a well written Bruce-but you would never know that from the bashing and hatred Clark gets. Darker does not always mean better, and the transparency of Bruce Wayne Batman as a white male wish fulfillment fantasy is pretty damn staggering. (via geekygothgirl) I admit, I was one of those “BATMAN IS BETTER” kids. I also saw Superman as perfect and Batman as imperfect and, more human. The people of Metropolis loved him, whereas Gotham City wasn’t always as welcoming to Batman. But recently I’ve been seeing that Superman isn’t perfect, either. He’s not invulnerable, though everyone thinks he is. He’s the perfect example of that person you think is flawless actually being very flawed. This is probably why I loved “Man of Steel” so much. It wasn’t just about him becoming Superman, it was about him becoming Clark Kent, which is why the villains worked so well because they came from the same place as him which meant, aren’t they who he’s supposed to be? And it became painfully obvious that that was the assumption, since even while he was fighting them the army was attacking him, too. I think what’s interesting with Superman is that, I feel like we sort of grew up thinking he was the perfect image. But, as we grew up, we discovered that there was more to him then that. But that’s what happens when you grow up. You notice things about the people close to you, about the people you feel are perfect. You learn things about your family, your friends, and everything like that. You learn that these people you have on a pedestal aren’t perfect. We already know that Batman’s not perfect from the start, but with Superman, we have expectations and suddenly, he’s insecure and questioning himself and the reason why he’s here. He’s actually, extremely, human. Take, for example, even the smallest thing. There’s an artist on Tumblr you really, really like. You love all of their art and you think they’re perfect. You start following their blog and you see posts that make you realize that, wow, they aren’t perfect. This isn’t a bad thing, though. Maybe it’s something small like, “Working on a commission and not sure I like how it’s coming out,” or something big like, “I hate myself.” You think, wow, you question yourself too? But you’re perfect! At the end of the day, though, there is no “perfect.” We’re all just human, and I think Superman shows that real well. At face value, sure, it’s this huge guy who is always doing good and fighting evil and whatnot, but when you dig deeper you realize that there’s more to him then that. There’s more to everyone then that. With “Man of Steel 2” I really think the movie has a good opportunity to not just have this colossal battle, but like, to show the development of Clark Kent more. "Man of Steel" ended with him going to the Daily Planet, so now the sequel should show him adjusting to that life. Usually, he’s already there, but we had an entire movie of him dealing with his heritage in a rather tragic way (last of Krypton wants to destroy his current home). Now, he’s the Clark Kent we know, and frankly, he’s going to have to deal with that AND the destruction of Metropolis and everyone’s opinions about Superman and all that, which I’m pretty sure aren’t going to be nearly as positive as they were back in the cartoons and stuff I watched as a kid. Usually, I love the dynamic between Superman and Batman, because Batman brings out that kind of snarky side to him. But let’s face it, after “Man of Steel,” Superman is already there. He spent his life travelling from place to place not for vengeance, sure, but for something that’s almost worst: because of what people would think of him. Even if he was doing good things, he would leave because of what he feared the response would be. And that way of thinking came straight from home: his father, who believed that people would react so badly that he DIED to keep his son’s secret safe. There’s more to this version of Superman/Clark Kent, so honestly, maybe he’s going to give Batman a run for his money. Not just in physical combat, but in personality. |
“It’s all still with me,” || 10.25.13
that’s fucking ANIMATED?
holy fucking shit
Oh shit
holy fuck, i cannot wait for this.
Shut up and take my money!
*whimper*
*grabby hands*
BTAS - Robin’s Reckoning, Part 1 [X]
Batman Begins [X]
the BTAS batman is way more frightening
Because being calm like this -oooooh can’t be goodSee this is why I really don’t like the new Batman movies;
Batman is a calm, stoic and logical character and he is, for the most part, ALWAYS calm in what he does and that is terrifying and he knows it’s terrifying - especially to the majority of the volatile villains who cannot find their calm most of the time. It’s also why he’s a great opposite to the Joker in that respect.
Christian Bale is a man in a Batman suit putting on a funny voice and purposefully angry voice, it’s not Batman and it doesn’t convey the feeling of eery calm that you get from a stone faced Batman locked straight onto you - it conveys an angry guy baring his teeth and shouting like he has a chest cold.
That’s also personally why I prefer Michael Keaton’s version of Batman; because he’s calm, collected and didn’t raise his voice the majority of both the Batman films he was in. He was the night! He was calm. Dark. Full of mystery and full of danger people couldn’t read straight away because of how calm he was. That’s what Batman is.
Okay, rant over, going to go draw. <3
I don’t mind the new Batman movies, I rather like them, but this is a good point too. BTAS is the first Batman I really remember getting into many, many years ago. And this post is right. He was really, really calm, and would kinda have a conversation in this calm voice like, “Alright. It’s you, me, and 30 stories,” like he was just saying something normal, like, “Alright, it’s you, me, and the coffee shop across the street.” Just calm, like nothing bad could happen, then the camera shows you the view below the bad guy and it’s like, “Oh crap.”
And yeah you know Batman doesn’t kill people, but the BTAS Batman would make you question it each time. Like you just know he isn’t going to do it, then he keeps talking and you’re like, “Weeeeeell… maybe he is… omg he is omg omg omg omg OMG OMG OMG BATMAN!!!” Then it’s like, “… oh… nevermind… but damn!”
I think the only thing more intimidating is when the bad guy would be like, “I’ll never tell never!” And Batman would be like, “Smirk.” Then he’d be like, “Alright, suit yourself,” then just let them go. Like JESUS! I mean he’d catch them, sure, but just that two second smirk like, “Well o.k. if you don’t want to tell me anything that’s fine,” then, “Just kidding gonna drop you now.”
He’d yell sometimes, but it was usually unexpected and justified, you know? Like when Harvey Dent became Two Face? And he reaches for him like “HARVEY!” Because that was his friend. And he sees his face and just shakes his head like, “No…” He’d yell over stuff like that. But even when you were arguing with him, he wouldn’t yell. Robin yelled about Tony Zuko and Batman was like, “You’re not getting involved,” and his voice got harder, but not loud, it was just that, “Batman out,” snap, and that’s it, don’t need to yell.
Randomly I’m really into Batman lately what is this?
I wish Batman was depicted like this more often. Many of his villains are mentally ill and victims of tragic circumstances, it would be nice to see him try to help them as much as he helps the people they put in danger because of their problems.
I agree. I mean I love the dark and gritty Batman world, sure, but I really love the Batman: Animated Series world. I liked the idea that not all of the bad guys were these terrible, unredeemable folks. I liked that, at some points in the series, they really just.. wanted to be normal. And I liked the times when Batman understood that, like here. "I had a bad day once, too.“ I like that the bad guys in this series felt so… human. Not completely bad, but not completely good. Some were terrible, some were just going about things wrong. This was the first series I watched as a kid where good and bad wasn’t this clear cut definition.
Sometimes, Batman had to be the hero and stop the Penguin.
Sometimes, the Penguin just… wanted the girl to like him
Sometimes, Batman was right about everything.
Other times, he felt guilty about the things he did: Two-Face, for example, was a good person before. Which yes, the Nolan movies captured, but in the animated series him and Bruce were friends, for a while! (there were episodes he showed up in BEFORE the Two-Face episode, there was a friendship between them, and it killed Bruce to see that happen to him).
But the best part about the moments where Batman felt guilty about the villains? He actually… cared about some of them. He cared about Robin and Batgirl, sure, but… having nightmares about Two Face. Feeling bad for Mr. Freeze and his wife. Just… episodes where the good guys learn the back story of the bad guys and just had this moment of, ”… wow. Shit.“ Because then, as a kid (and adult), you’re watching like, "Wow… so you’re not flat out bad.” Because some of us have, as Batman says here, “A bad day.”
It also answers the question that I had as a kid of, you know, why doesn’t the hero just get rid of the bad guy? You keep locking him or her away, they get out, and do it all over again. But this series, this CARTOON, shows that hey, the bad guys are people too.
Harley just… wanted a dress.
Couple has really awesome Batgirl/Nightwing wedding cause they’re awesome.
(source: http://imgur.com/a/XSADm)
UUNF I want my nerd wedding now! ;__;
Batman.
Oh god really?! All right here we go.
- Why I like them
Cuz it’s Batman, duh!
No but seriously, growing up he was my favorite DC hero because he was real. I mean, he was smart, he didn’t have powers, and he’d get angry and make mistakes too (I still remember the animated series episode with Two Face and how he blames himself, or the episode where he’s on trial, accused of creating these super villains, and it’s like… shit wow). And he cared, a lot, despite what it looked like at times. I think that’s why I really liked Batman Beyond, or characters like Nightwing, because on the one hand you knew Batman cared but on the other hand… what kind of life was he getting them into? Like I remember Terry meeting Barbara Gordon in Batman Beyond and she was like, “Don’t get mixed in on this its terrible, he makes it sound great but it’s not,” and even by that point Bruce Wayne was like, “Terry no, you don’t want this.” Or there’s the episode of the animated series where Batman finds the man who killed Robin’s parents (screw you movie for making it Two Face no), and he DOESN’T tell him, because he’s worried about him. And besides being concerned about losing Robin it’s like, he really doesn’t want these kids to turn out like him.
I also like how, you know, he just… can’t get close to people. Like he tries and it never works out. But that’s like, super hero realistic to me and, in a way, human realistic. He’s been through so much and is so fucked up, these characters try and just… no. Even in Justice League with other heroes who have their own hidden secrets, Batman is still like, “… no.”
- Why I don’t
Some representations of him are just… not good. Like Batman and Robin, just… no.
- Favorite episode (scene if movie)
Like my favorite Batman episode is “Almost Got Em’,” because it shows the villains on their day off just talking about their Batman stories, and I thought that was really, really cool. I liked that it took a second to show the villains, not doing anything bad, just… being there. Like, what do super villains do on their day off? Play poker.
- Favorite season/movie
The animated series was my first really good representation of Batman. I mean I remember seeing the first two movies, but the animated series is what sticks out the most to me. Even with the Dark Knight Trilogy, I can watch the animated series all these years later and smile.
- Favorite line
I can’t think of a line but I can think of a scene. In the first movie, there’s a guy trying to fight Batman and he’s doing all of these moves, looking like he’s going to do something, and Batman just punches him in the face. The end. Wait! For a line, it would be, “I threw a rock at him,” in “Almost Got Em’.” Because Batman was disguised as Killer Croc, so technically it was Batman saying it.
- Favorite outfit
Urm… bat suit?
- OTP
Just one? Ha no. Robin. Superman. Catwoman. Wonder Woman. The Flash. Batman is my DC Tony Stark I can pair him with anyone.
- Brotp
Him and Alfred.
- Head Canon
I’m stealing my partner’s headcanon for the next Man of Steel movie, since it’s going to have Batman in it. With Metropolis destroyed, mysterious billionaire Bruce Wayne comes to help with the repairs. Also helping with the repairs is Lex Luthor, and Bruce is helping him, sort of suspicious about him of course, but as Bruce Wayne he can look into what happened in Metropolis. Him and Superman butt heads, of course, though they probably meet as Clark and Bruce first, because Clark is covering the story with Lois on how generous Mr. Wayne is for coming to help their city.
- Unpopular opinion
Is there really one for Batman? There’s so many takes on him…
- A wish
That whenever the Justice League movie happens, that it’s good. Also, that Man of Steel 2 keeps all of the wonderful tension between Batman and Superman.
- An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen
That Batman trusts Superman right off the bat in the new movie, because that is so not his style. Also, that someday Batman settles down and gets married, just… no.
- 5 words to best describe them
Mysterious. Cunning. Smart. Flawed. Dark.
- My nickname for them
Uh… I don’t really have one ^^
